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  • #540323
    Andrew Cerick

      I understand from the champ U course that as you are trailing off the brakes at corner entry you are modulating the brake pressure. Adding slightly more or less depending on your positioning and where you want to be on road or track. My question is I often hear people say certain bikes have a good or bad “feel” through the brake lever. What are they actually referring to? Also can this help or hinder your riding?

      #540334
      Brent Ackermann

        My question is I often hear people say certain bikes have a good or bad “feel” through the brake lever. What are they actually referring to?

        For me, the “feel” is feedback from my input on the brake lever to the slowing of the motorcycle. How direct does it feel per how hard I squeeze? Good brake lever feel is predictable output per my input. Bad feel is vague or unpredictable slowing of the bike.

        can this help or hinder your riding?

        Everything we do on the track or on the street is about limiting the times we’re surprised or caught off guard. If you have a higher confidence in your braking performance, you’re in a much better position to ride safer and more controlled.

        #540340
        Brian Buckhana

          Hey ya’ll,

          Really enjoyed ChampU and the confidence that it’s given me along with the tools to diagnose issues in my own riding.

          I have a question about ChampBody. I know you guys are all about keeping your curriculum up to date and I was wondering if that applied to ChampBody as well? I haven’t seen anything recent on it and the only way to find it is through Google. I can’t navigate to it via the website alone. Last thing I’ve seen on it is a blog post from 2018.

          Is this being replaced or phased out? Just wondering.

          Thanks for all that ya’ll do and keep up the good work!

          Brian

          #540597
          Shashank Agarwal

            I just finished my online course..

            I have a question about 2nd part of counter steering i.e stop pushing & allowing the Handlebars to turn.
            But how to do that ? Is it necessary ?
            Am not getting a clear picture about doing that, plz explain with as much details as u can

            My 2nd question is that how to take away lean angle points at corner exit. Can I use counter steering to get the bike up ?

            #540630
            Keith Culver

              Shashank,

              Think of that idea in countersteering like this. If you keep pushing the bars forward the bike will keep leaning and leaning until it falls over. Not a good thing when trying to make a corner or a turn. Eventually, when you push the bars to initiate the lean to turn, you need to release that pushing forward pressure. We do this almost automatically. We’re just putting it into words so students can understand the science of the technique.

              For your second question, yes. I often “feel” the counter steering in this instance more than I even do when initiating a turn.

              Just remember, ALL of these inputs needs to be smooth. No matter how good the technique is, things can go wrong if you do it too abruptly.

              Safe riding!

              #540835
              Shashank Agarwal

                Just for instance, I am at maintenance throttle, lets say at maximum lean angle but now I decided to go on brakes reason being anything , so if I roll off my throttle to the brakes very smoothly & start squeezing my brakes smoothly at that maximum lean angle having warm tire & good road conditions,
                Can the tire take that smooth load or will the bike fall ?
                (I am asking this because I can’t do that exercise in real world with my bike
                But I want to know the consequences.)
                Plz tell me.

                • This reply was modified 11 months ago by Shashank Agarwal.
                #541177
                Chris Ducharme

                  I’m practicing trail braking. Let’s say, for instance, I enter corner in 3rd gear. Through corner, I reduce speed enough that it would be better to exit corner in 2nd gear, otherwise engine lugs. Is it advisable to shift mid-corner. As I see it, that introduces some risk if engine speed wasn’t matched well to gear and road speed.

                  #541179
                  Keith Culver

                    Chris,

                    We want to try to finish our downshifting before we enter the corner as often as possible, especially if you are newer. The idea is to get down to the gear needed to exit. But, alas this is real world and we don’t always get that right.

                    If you are experienced and have a smooth clutch release, you can downshift in the corner but the clutch release needs to be real smooth (and a good blip as we teach) and you need to make sure you are in the proper gear (definitely not too low!).

                    That being said, neutral throttle won’t really induce a lot of lugging so in this scenario, if you are in that too high a gear, you might want to do that downshift as you are getting the bike up straighter. At least as you are taking away lean angle.

                    Hope this helps

                    #541180
                    Keith Culver

                      Chris,

                      We want to try to finish our downshifting before we enter the corner as often as possible, especially if you are newer. The idea is to get down to the gear needed to exit. But, alas this is real world and we don’t always get that right.

                      If you are experienced and have a smooth clutch release, you can downshift in the corner but the clutch release needs to be real smooth (and a good blip as we teach) and you need to make sure you are in the proper gear (definitely not too low!).

                      That being said, neutral throttle won’t really induce a lot of lugging so in this scenario, if you are in that too high a gear, you might want to do that downshift as you are getting the bike up straighter. At least as you are taking away lean angle.

                      Hope this helps

                      #541182
                      Keith Culver

                        It depends on how you want to define max lean angle for your situation. At the bike and tires max lean angle (the physical limit), theoretically you are 100 points of available grip so any brakes would put you over 100 points and lose traction.

                        If it is the max lean angle you happen to be using in that corner but not at the bikes, tires, or your 100%, than you should technically be able to add braking or lean points.

                        On the street, you should never be anywhere near 100 points. 70 should be your max on the street.

                        Hope this helps.

                        #541244
                        Edward Clarini

                          Hi, I am taking the new rider online champU course to start riding again after many years off motorbikes.
                          It is not clear to me about how much to load the front tire when trail braking? Is the goal to use up all the front shock travel for best road feel? Or if only light braking is needed for a more gentle curve, is it ok to partially compress front shocks to slow the bike down a little for a sweeping corner? Thanks! Ed.

                          #541794
                          Florin Neacsu

                            Hi, I finished the first 4 modules and I have a question regarding the sequence of controls when taking a corner. I understand that I should close throttle, squeeze brake and maintain slightly the brake while turning, maintain neutral throttle and then accelerate once we are pointed towards a clear exit. But I find myself most times decelerating before the corner so much, that I have to accelerate through corner because I am too slow.
                            So what advise could you give me? From what I understood, I should probably brake less and later, so I can carry enough speed through the corner?

                            #542578
                            Shashank Agarwal

                              I am having problem in transferring weight from inside arm to my inside foot peg bcoz when i try putting pressure to inside foot peg with my inside foot, my body tends to get lifted off from the seat..

                              Can i use outside foot as a support by pulling my knees towards the tank ?

                              Or what are the other ways to get off that weight from my arms while cornering..

                              #542586
                              Keith Culver

                                Shashank,

                                Yes! The outside leg against the fuel tank is a great anchor point and we are putting more and more emphasis on it as we work with the top riders to learn how much they use it.

                                Love the thought process.

                                – Keith

                                #544773
                                David Nghiem

                                  Hi ChampU, I know my foot position is very poor in this photo, however I don’t have the flexibility to get up on my toes (6ft tall and size 12 boots). I have a mini bike and i’m comfortable with a naked body position and hanging off, but can never seem to find the right setup for the supersport.

                                  Should I just tuck my knee in further isntead of trying to stick it out so much? My fear is that I will lose my lean angle gauge as I have never touched my knee on the supersport yet.

                                  any advice related or not is much appreciated!

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